Tavis Smiley (very nice looking man btw) talking to Dickhead Durbin
SMILEY: I think most Americans agree, although I've not done a scientific poll, but I think most of us would probably agree, Senator - I'm sure you do as well - that deficit reduction is a real issue. [But] The question is when the time for that conversation has come, and whether or not, given the condition of the economy, we ought to change our focus to talking about deficit reduction versus stimulating this economy.
Because the deficit has *nothing* to do with the economy. Does it?
So everybody knows now this commission has come out with their report about what ought to be done with regard to deficit reduction, so I'm asking two questions. One, your take on that report, just a top-line take on it, and your take, more expressly, on whether or not this conversation in Washington is going to shift at the wrong time.
DURBIN: This is a reality. The deficit faces us. We borrow 40 cents out of every dollar that we spend. We borrow most of it from countries like China. They have become major creditors of the United States and have more power over our economy than we want them too. So dealing with this is not only the right thing economically, it's certainly right from a moral viewpoint. We can't leave this debt to our kids and expect them to shoulder that responsibility, but the reality of the situation is if we hit the brakes now on spending and stimulus, right in the midst of a recovery economy, we could plunge this economy back into recession, with even higher unemployment.
(Sidebar: suddenly they're concerned about leaving our kids debt? That's a laugh.) Ok excuse me, a recovery economy??? When did this recovery start? Why didn't anyone tip me off to it? Oh, I forgot...they're citing the likes of Paul Krugman. IOW they don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about. BACK into recession??? Are you freaking kidding me? BACK into recession? Do these people live in jars? Higher unemployment?? Higher than WHAT? Under Bush it rose to possibly 7.6 which is bad enough (though it wasn't the norm) and under Obama - who swore it couldn't go over 8%, it's now risen pretty much to double digits. We're back in the Carter years, and they're talking about going BACK into a recession from a RECOVERING economy with double-digit unemployment??? And we've got Bernanke TheBenbernank promising to raise inflation and printing tons of fiat money (because God forbid DEFLATION! Oh NOES!) and Krugman recommending an inflation rate of an eventual 28%...and extensions of those sweet sweet unemployment benefits of 2 years total (i.e. welfare, duh) and every day I hear from people who can't get a job making more than they are already making on unemployment (and it's unfortunately all too true)...and a recession rapidly turning into a DEPRESSION...and these geniuses are recommending more of the same because it just wasn't ENOUGH the first time. Never mind that if they'd get the hell OUT of Thebenbernank plan, the stimulus, and all this other nonsense, we might HAVE jobs to get if we're willing. The country is in the hands of utter, utter fools. Who have never run an economy before. Who have NEVER shown an ability to make or keep money and who just want to punish the people who could give us employment and stop taking taxes from people who don't really pay taxes anyway. Welcome to the Cloward-Piven strategy of manufactured crises to perform massive takeovers. Greedy, power-hungry little songbirds that they are. And now even Gene Simmons wishes he could take his vote back. If only you hadn't been so fucking stupid in the first place, Gene. Lick it up. Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/12/05/pbs-tavis-smiley-asks-dick-durbin-and-gary-hart-about-too-much-gop-parti#ixzz17Hs60NdU
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ANNIEE ~
I've been meaning to find the time to leave this comment for days now, but what with Christmas and all, time is at a premium. So now I'm staying up late to get this written.
You wrote:...and a recession rapidly turning into a DEPRESSION...and these geniuses are recommending more of the same because it just wasn't ENOUGH the first time. Never mind that if they'd get the hell OUT of Thebenbernank plan, the stimulus, and all this other nonsense, we might HAVE jobs to get if we're willing. The country is in the hands of utter, utter fools.
Anniee, my friend, this is a point I have attempted to express on my 'Ferret-Faced Fascist Friends' blog repeatedly over the years:
You and I are almost always largely in agreement, and TOTALLY in agreement when it comes to economics. So, I am not disagreeing with your viewpoint at all, but merely your assessment of the intelligence of these "utter, utter fools".
No, Anniee, they are NOT fools. I've said it over and over again: one does not occupy an important position in Washington D.C. by being a fool. I'm sorry, you can be a liar (Bush Sr.), you can be an evildoer (Carter), you can be an ass (all of them!), a crook (Nixon), a warmonger (W), a sex addict (Clinton), a drug dealer (Clinton), a traitor (all of them!), and a foreign-born Marxist (USAP). But what you CAN'T be is an "utter, utter, fool". Not in the White House, not in the State Department, not anywhere in a prominent place on Capitol Hill. They don't let fools into the D.C. Club; they are much too careful with the power they have consolidated for themselves to risk it all on a loose cannon or a fool.
Believe it or not, Anniee, those people understand the laws of economics every bit as well as we do. Although we would like to think that they are not as intelligent as we are - when we see the senseless, seemingly stupid things they do - the truth of the matter is, they are no less intelligent than you and I are.
Here's the key that unravels ALL OF THE MYSTERIES about the seeming stupidity on Capitol Hill: Their goal is to literally wreck this nation entirely - but particularly economically, however, without allowing it to appear that it was done by design. If you believe that they are wrecking us via economic stupidity, you are believing EXACTLY what they want you to believe about them.
In the tome I have sent you - 'THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND: A Second Look At The Federal Reserve' by G. Edward Griffin (which hopefully you will receive on Monday) - you will encounter these quotes:
TAXPAYERS PAY TO SEND THEIR JOBS OVERSEAS
...This disdain for the American work force is partly because of corporate pursuit of maximum profit above all else and partly because decision makers consider themselves to be internationalists, with no special interest in America except as a cash cow to be milked as regularly and thoroughly as possible.
As will be illustrated in the following chapters of this book, some of these people, acting through organizations such as the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), are consciously pursuing policies designed to lower the economic stature of America so it can be more comfortably merged into global government. Taxing money from American workers to build up the economies of foreign countries has done much to advance that goal."
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AMERICA IS THE TARGET
It has become the prime directive to weaken the United States both militarily and economically. And this directive has come from AMERICAN leaders, not those of other countries. CFR members sitting in the White House, the State Department, the Defense Department, and the Treasury are now working to finalize that part of the plan. ...
The American economy is being deliberately exhausted through foreign giveaways and domestic boondoggles. The object is not to help those in need or to preserve the environment, but to BRING THE SYSTEM DOWN.
Anniee, that may be hard to believe, but what "utterly, utterly foolish" action do they take that won't eventually result in that very thing? Are they REALLY so stupid as to continue doing the things that reasonable people like us can clearly see will - by the very laws of economics - wreck the nation?
Until sufficient enough Americans are awakened to the fact that both major American political parties are conspiring to bring the American system down, there is truly NO HOPE FOR AMERICA.
As for me, I hope that the book I have sent to you will have a devastating effect on your political world-view, to the point that you too eventually become convinced of the facts that many of those making many of the most important decisions that most impact us are not "utter fools" nor do they have the average working American's interest at heart.
Totalitarian Global Government is the goal, and the vast amount of decisions emanating from Washington D.C. are stepping stones to that very Endgame.
Bless And Be Blessed, my friend!
~ D-FensDogg
'Loyal American Underground'
"Believe it or not, Anniee, those people understand the laws of economics every bit as well as we do. Although we would like to think that they are not as intelligent as we are - when we see the senseless, seemingly stupid things they do - the truth of the matter is, they are no less intelligent than you and I are.
Here's the key that unravels ALL OF THE MYSTERIES about the seeming stupidity on Capitol Hill: Their goal is to literally wreck this nation entirely - but particularly economically, however, without allowing it to appear that it was done by design. If you believe that they are wrecking us via economic stupidity, you are believing EXACTLY what they want you to believe about them."
That's even worse. I certainly can believe it, but it doesn't make me feel any better. Even Greenspan knew better and he turned against us in the end too, didn't he? Surely he couldn't have been excused.
It makes me feel ill thinking they ALL know better and are merely intent on our destruction. But...they are, either way, that much I did know. Ugh - going to go watch some bread and circuses now, tyvm.
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